Zimmerman did not disregard the dispatcher’s advisement, and there was no “chase” or “pursuit” of any kind.

Zimmerman said “[Trayvon] ran”, as in vacating the vicinity.  It appeared that Trayvon was leaving the area, and so Zimmerman left his vehicle to both 1) see which way he went and 2) give a location as to where he was.  

Shortly after Zimmerman left his vehicle, the dispatcher asked him “Are you following him?”, to which Zimmerman replied, “Yeah.”  The dispatcher (believing that Zimmerman was possibly pursuing this person) told him “We don’t need you to do that.”  Zimmerman said, “OK”- a term of agreement and compliance.

In truth, Zimmerman had nothing to comply with, because Zimmerman had been “following” only in the sense that he was headed to a location the “suspect” had been (the “T”-intersection).  He was certainly not following with the intention of overtaking or capturing this suspicious person.  (That’s why he called the police.)


Trayvon wasn’t really leaving the area, and Zimmerman wasn’t really “following”.  How do we know?  Read below.  

The location of events

I didn’t make this graphic.  It is from the View from LL2 blog, and was used in a post to demonstrate Zimmerman’s guilt.   For our purposes, graphics 3, 4, and 5 are the only ones relevant.

[The top of red section #5 (where the final confrontation took place) should actually be extended up to the very top of the “T”.  (That is where Zimmerman’s key chain was found (which, if consistent with his narrative of events, is about where he said he was struck in the nose.)  Ear-witnesses also describe the encounter as beginning at the top of the “T” and moving down.  In short, the evidence indicates that the encounter began at the top of the “T”, in the middle of the blue area.

But let’s slant things in Trayvon’s favor.  Let’s say that Zimmerman’s key ring was planted at the top of the “T” (as some have suggested), the witnesses were inaccurate or lying (as some have suggested),  and that the entire encounter began and ended at the very bottom of the red area above.  And let’s also say that Zimmerman’s car was parked to the furthest left point in area 3. ]

By the way, Trayvon knew the area He’d been there before.  He’d gone to 7-11 before.  His female friend on the phone never mentioned a thing about him being lost.   In fact, she said that Trayvon said that he knew he was near his place.


At 2:11 into Zimmerman’s phone call, Zimmerman said “Shit, he’s running”.  Almost 2 minutes later the call ends.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_speed (Emphasis added) (Look up citations yourself.):

The preferred walking speed is the speed at which humans or other animals choose to walk. In the absence of significant external factors, humans tend to walk at about 1.4 m/s (5.0 km/h; 3.1 mph).[1][2][3]

In an hour, a human being would walk 3.1 miles.

There are 5,280 feet in a mile so 3.1 (miles) x 5280 feet= 16,368 feet in an hour.  There are 60 minutes in an hour 16,368 feet per hour/60 minutes = 272.8 feet per minute.  Humans tend to walk at 272.8 feet per minute.(a)(b)  In two minutes, a human would walk 545 feet.


The distance between the westernmost location of Zimmerman’s car, east down the sidewalk, then south down the side walk, and then east inside of Brandy Green’s living room is 545 feet.

Trayvon could have calmly walked down the sidewalk all the way home by the time Zimmerman finished his phone call. 

Trayvon wasn’t running away from George Zimmerman.  He wasn’t even walking away from George Zimmerman.

How do we know this?  The altercation began at the top of the “T”.

Zimmerman Chasing

Now, let’s take Zimmerman “pursuing” Trayvon.  Let’s pretend that Zimmerman began his “pursuit” and he went East to the middle of the “T” and then headed south “after” Trayvon.  Let’s say he was doing this at walking speed as well.

Merely at walking speed, when he hung up the phone, Zimmerman would have been past Brandy Green’s house.  

George Zimmerman wasn’t pursuing Trayvon Martin.  He wasn’t even walking after him.  How do we know this?  The altercation began at the top of the “T”.

Bottom Line

Trayvon Martin not only wasn’t running home, he wasn’t even walking home.  George Zimmerman was not only not running after Trayvon Martin, he wasn’t even walking after him.  Even at walking speeds- none of that makes a damned bit of sense.  The faster you want to say that either of them were traveling, the more absurd the final location makes it be.

 A Big Picture Look

Let’s say that Trayvon cuts through, Zimmerman spots him, and has the non-emergency dispatcher on the phone before he’s even made it to the street.

Trayvon would be about 1300 feet away (rounding in Trayvon’s favor) from his home, by walking.

Zimmerman’s phone call lasted about 4 minutes (rounding in Trayvon’s favor).

In four minutes, walking speed, Trayvon would have traveled 1091 feet.

Past the spot where the encounter ended.

Bottom Line

The notion of a “high speed pursuit” (or even a walking speed pursuit) is a mind-boggling load of bulls*it.

The idea that Trayvon had been running so hard from Zimmerman that Trayvon was literally out of breath and he could run no more?


Repeat after me: Zimmerman was not chasing Trayvon.  Trayvon was not running away from Zimmerman.  Nobody who looks closely at the facts is going to buy that.  That concept is complete bullsh*t and the indisputable duration of the phone call and indisputable location of events proves that.  Period.  End of story.  Cut the bullsh*t.

An excellent article for more information:



25 thoughts on “Zimmerman did not disregard the dispatcher’s advisement, and there was no “chase” or “pursuit” of any kind.

  1. How disappointing…

    To say TM was not running from Zimm puts GZ’s version into question. Why else would TM confront Zimm if Zimm was not following and TM wasn’t running from him?

    You think TM was just aimlessly walking about the neighborhood, got lost on his way home, saw GZ and confronted him out of random? Not because GZ was watching him, not because GZ was following, not because GZ chased him?

    If TM wasn’t running from GZ then he didn’t need to ask GZ what his problem was or why he was following? DD or GZ is lieing and GZ has lied numerous times. This is why GZ needs those school records so bad.

    To prove that TM was just seeking a battle that evening.TM was going to ask the first person he saw if they had a problem? Madness…

    • TM knew that GZ was watching him from his car. He also saw GZ walking through the T with his little flashlight. But as I said, Trayvon could have calmly walked home with time to spare. He didn’t. He either hid and ambushed Zimmerman or he doubled back and attacked.

    • @ Puptart

      Please enlight us as to the logic involved in someone who goes away from perceived danger and then doubles back (away from the original direction he was going) and heads toward the danger AND THEN confronts the danger ?

      Trayvon had a number of things he could have done if he felt threatened or was scared of GZ. He did none of those and his actions show he was aggressive.

      • You want some logic.

        Lets talk about reaching for your phone instead of a gun when a “danger” confronts you. They teach that into CHL class?

        What proof do you have that TM turned back? Keep in mind that GZ lost him and didn’t actually see TM turn around. Weak response…

        • Yes, I asked for logic to be applied to a specific question. Instead, the reply I got contained a complete change of subject. (??)
          I am forced to presume by the change of subject that you are unable to supply any logic to my original question. (Which is understandable.)

          Since it is obvious that you haven’t read the information supplied in this thread, I will tell you that the answer to your additional question about GZ going for his phone AND the proof you are looking for regarding TM’s very apparent footpath that evening can also be found in the discovery evidence that has been released by the state.

  2. Know this: One way or another Zimmerman’s dead, cold corpse will be the only acceptable retribution and, make no mistake, Zimmerman is going to die. Too much heat for executing a child. We will celebrate that day as a black holiday. I hope they sever his fucking head and mail it to his inbred parents. Cheers Nazi lovers.

    • The monster awakens, I was wondering when you might stir. Surely from dreams filled with anger and resentment towards unfortunate things that Zimmerman had nothing to do with.

      When an angry white teen sucker punches you and continues to beat you as you scream for help that never comes, rest assured I will defend you as well should you exercise your right to defend yourself.

  3. No such fantasy occurred. Zimmerman is a murderer so keep your worthless conjecture born of your inferior mind. Justice, as I’ve said before, will meet Zimmerman and i’m very much convinced a patriot will take “it” out with extraordinary scalpel-precision. When his severed head is displayed on websites around the world, you can cry like the racist loser you are. Just admit it; you hate black people. No worries we hate your kind also. As for some young white punk sucker punching me, it would be the very last thing he’d ever done before I literally beat the f*kiing LIFE out of him.. perhaps prying his inbred eyes from their socket before decapitation. Cheers Nazi 🙂

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